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J-Tron

I wonder if your answer doesn't border on another heresy, a kind of tri-theism? Of course, it's hard not to veer into heresy sometimes in addressing questions like this. Our vocabulary for doing so is so limited. I do think the point you make is good, that we should not limit what is possible of God by what we know of God, even when what we know is part of the gospel. But this is the bit that worries me:

"Jesus should be the center of our church, but by no means does Jesus encompass all of God."

Of course Jesus is all of God. The same is true of the Holy Spirit and of the Father. They are not parts of a whole but rather each is the whole. And yet they are also not interchangeable. The Spirit is not the Son is not the Father. But the Father and the Son and the Spirit are One. That is the mystery, at least as I understand it.

FrSimmons

I think it depends on how you interpret my words. Jesus is "all God," that is, fully God but also fully human.

However, I would not say that each person is the whole - I would use the traditional language that they are of the same substance (Ousia). They also always act with a unified will.

When we refer to God, in a Trinitarian sense, we mean the whole, but as soon as we refer to one of the persons, we are by definition not talking about the completeness of God. Otherwise, we slide into Patripassianism, with each person being just a function of the whole.

David+

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